AMERIKA: U.S.A & The Collapse Continuum – By Dmitry Orlov

Stage 1: Financial collapse. Faith in “business as usual” is lost.
Stage 2: Commercial collapse. Faith that “the market shall provide” is lost.
Stage 3: Political collapse. Faith that “the government will take care of you” is lost.
Stage 4: Social collapse. Faith that “your people will take care of you” is lost.
Stage 5: Cultural collapse. Faith in “the goodness of humanity” is lost.

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Source – unz.com

   – “…Unlike the Titanic, most collapsed regimes don’t fully sink. They remain about half under water, and half above, possibly with an orchestra still playing joyful music. And in the most expensive top deck cabins, a pretty luxurious lifestyle can be maintained by the elites. But for most of the passengers such a collapse results in poverty, insecurity, political instability and a huge loss in welfare. Furthermore, in terms of motion, a half-sunk ship is no ship at all”

Placing the USA on a Collapse Continuum with Dmitry Orlov

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8 thoughts on “AMERIKA: U.S.A & The Collapse Continuum – By Dmitry Orlov

  1. From the article:

    “Eventually the US will rebound; I have no doubts about that at all. This is a big country with millions of immensely talented people, immense natural resources and no credible threat to it’s territory. But that can only happen after a real regime change (as opposed to a change in Presidential Administration) which, itself, is only going to happen after an “E2 catastrophe” collapse.”

    I don’t know how we will rebound after ‘the collapse’ seeing as how I don’t see what this guy sees in that we have “millions of immensely talented people.” Where are they? Because we could surely use them to get the message out that we are killing ourselves. We are allowing corporations to take what little ‘fresh water’ we have and use it for ‘fracking’. How are we suppose to bounce back when millions of people are sitting outside somewhere and will soon be lying on the streets with worms pouring out of their ass while at the same time, battling typhus and hepatitis A, B, or C? One thing the government shutdown has uncovered is the fact that hundreds of thousands of government workers are earning paltry wages and yet are so stupid they will pay over $1000 a year for Starbucks coffee alone and now wail and whine that they can’t continue to do that because they are one paycheck away from homelessness? They are selling items on Craigslist and crowdfunding on GoFundMe which is like putting a bandaid on a gushing bullet wound. Is that what he meant in that we have “millions of immensely talented people” to pull us back from a catastrophic collapse? Because if so, then that ain’t happening.

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    • Good point, Shelby. I’m not sure why Orlov stuck that in there about the US having “millions of talented people.” I don’t really think he’s thought it through what it would take to replace the powers that be and bring the US back from collapse. For one thing, we have to dismantle all those nuclear reactors. That alone is mind boggling.

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  2. They could have a green revolution in america. But no that is too much to ask

    HATE TO BE POLITICALLY INCORRECT BUT,
    being from Ukraine, one would think Orlov would be able to connect the real dots  OF THE TWO MODERN CATACLYSMIC EVENTS MODERN INDUSTRIAL SOCIETIES THAT HAVE LED COLLAPSE OF ONE COUNTRY AND THE IMPENDING OF THE WORLDS 3RD LARGEST ECONOMY.

    THE REAL
    STAGE ONE SHOULD BE THE BIOLOGICAL COLLAPSE AND EXIT OF PEOPLE THAT RADICALLY  OCCURED IN THE UKRAINE AND BELARUS AFTER CHERNOBYL .  MANY PEOPLE JUST GOT THE HELL OUT OF UKRAINE AFTER CHERNOBYL AND ARE STILL BLEEDIND OUT. IT IS OCCURING IN JAPAN AFTER FUKUSHIMA AND IS OCCURING IN MURICA TOO

    Birth rates are falling off the cliff in Japan as they did in Russia.

    Chernobyl helped precipitate the collapse of the USSRhttps://dunrenard.wordpress.com/2019/01/07/the-after-fukushima-and-japans-declining-birthrate-japans-demographics-a-national-crisis/

    AnonymousJanuary 15, 2019 at 11:16 AM
    THIS IS HAPPENING IN THE UNITED STATES TOO PEOPLE SO DO NOT FOOL YOUR SELVES

    The After Fukushima and Japan’s Declining Birthrate, Japan’s Demographics a National Crisis
    Japan, Nuclear, Radiation
    From Chris Busby:
    Japan’s birth rate was declining but gradually, as was the Belarus birthrate. The rate at which it was declining was low. Then after Fukushima it fell of the cliff.
    I made this graph from Japan vital statistics data on the web.
    In 2005 it was 8.32. So there is a sharp fall in the rate after Fukushima. Same thing happened in Belarus after Chernobyl. Look at the Bandashevsky’s after Chernobyl birth rate graph.
    It was expected What I am saying is that the fall in birthrate in Japan is a Fukushima effect in the same way as the fall in birthrate in Belrus was a Chernobyl effect.

    chernobyl & fukushima birthrates.jpg

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    Japanese prime minister Shinzo Abe describes demographics as a national crisis
    Japan suffered its biggest population decline on record this year, according to new figures that underline the country’s losing battle to raise its birth rate.
    The number of births fell to its lowest since records began more than a century ago, the health and welfare ministry said, soon after parliament approved an immigration bill that will pave the way for the arrival of hundreds of thousands of blue-collar workers to address the worst labour shortage in decades.
    The ministry estimated 921,000 babies will have been born by the end of 2018 – 25,000 fewer than last year and the lowest number since comparable records began in 1899. It is also the third year in a row the number of births has been below one million.
    Combined with the estimated number of deaths this year – a postwar high of 1.37 million – the natural decline of Japan’s population by 448,000 is the biggest ever.
    The data suggests the government will struggle to reach its goal of raising the birth rate – the average number of children a woman has during her lifetime – to 1.8 by April 2026. The current birth rate stands at 1.43, well below the 2.07 required to keep the population stable.
    Crisis
    The prime minister, Shinzo Abe, has described Japan’s demographics as a national crisis and promised to increase childcare places and introduce other measures to encourage couples to have more children.
    But the number of children on waiting lists for state-funded daycare increased for the third year in a row last year, raising doubts over his plans to provide a place for every child by April 2020.
    Japanese people have an impressive life expectancy – 87.2 years for women and 81.01 years for men – which experts attribute to regular medical examinations, universal healthcare coverage and, among older generations, a preference for Japan’s traditional low-fat diet.
    But the growing population of older people is expected to place unprecedented strain on health and welfare services in the decades to come. Some of those costs will be met by a controversial rise in the consumption (sales) tax, from 8 per cent to 10 per cent, next October.
    Earlier this year the government said 26.1 million – or just over 20 per cent of the total population of 126.7 million – were aged 70 and over.
    The number of centenarians, meanwhile, had risen to 69,785 as of September this year, with women making up 88% of the total.
    Japan has the highest proportion of older people – or those aged 65 and over – in the world, followed by Italy, Portugal and Germany.
    The National Institute of Population and Social Security Research in Tokyo estimated that more than 35 per cent of Japanese will be aged 65 or over by 2040.
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/asia-pacific/japan-suffers-biggest-ever-population-decline-as-birthrate-falls-1.3742164?fbclid=IwAR0MRjzWAu2Bpbe7Lu9mlFukbbG670l_f-_0E1qIJ9
    See also:

    Pr Chris Busby on infertility risk around Fukushima, Japan, etc

    Pr A.Yablokov and Pr C.Busby on Fukushima victim estimations

    January 7, 2019
    Birth rate, Demographics, Fukushima Daiichi, Nuclear Disaster

    BIOLOGICAL COLLAPSE SHOULD BE STAGE 1 OR STAGE WHATEVER IN THERE SOMEWHERE

    #1. Biological stage: where birthrate decrease and illness increases from radionuclides and pollution  they precitate collapse or are a major force in precipitating further collapse and perhaps causing extinction

    #Stage 1: Financial collapse. Faith in “business as usual” is lost.
    Stage 2: Commercial collapse. Faith that “the market shall provide” is lost.
    Stage 3: Political collapse. Faith that “the government will take care of you” is lost.
    Stage 4: Social collapse. Faith that “your people will take care of you” is lost.
    Stage 5: Cultural collapse. Faith in “the goodness of humanity” is lost.

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    • I had no idea you were from Ukraine, Doug. I’m a long term admirer of Dr Helen Caldicott, who has worked really hard in the last few years to publicize the large number of deaths and cases of chronic disabling illness resulting from Chernobyl. It’s my personal view that the collapse of the Soviet economy (and starvation and malnutrition-related illness) also played a role in Russia’s declining birth rate. Japan’s economy is also not doing so great – for nearly two decades now they have suffered from high unemployment and homelessness among youth.

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  3. Dun Renard link

    USSRhttps://dunrenard.wordpress.com/2019/01/07/the-after-fukushima-and-japans-declining-birthrate-japans-demographics-a-national-crisis/

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  4. Pr Busby Videos around Risks of infertility from Fukushima Chernobyl
    Pr Chris Busby on infertility risk around Fukushima, Japan, etc

    Pr A.Yablokov and Pr C.Busby on Fukushima victim estimations

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